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I found below text in workshop manual. It seems you just pitched the speed accurately Ian!

as you can see it should detect the object. I am wondering if a loose bumper would make a false signal. I.e. the bumper does to deflect during an impact as the program is expecting. Bearing in mind the sensors are connected to the abs bumper, not the metallic frame. So it’s good idea to check any excessive movement and tightening the bumper bolts. or recalibrate the system after removing the bumper for any reason. @ian, any chance to check if your bumper is attached solidly?

I am interested in that safe mode of it means the system is less sensitive.

and I have a question. If got forbidden you hit a pedestrian and things go bad, would legally cause any problems that your car had PPS and you intentionally disabled it? Insurers could say your premium was lower because you car seem safer to in this aspect and you modified that. So maybe you have to inform the insurer that the system is disabled. Just a guess.


“ System Operation
The pedestrian protection system is operational when the vehicle is traveling at speeds between approximately 20 km/h (12.4 mph) and 45 km/h (28 mph). A vehicle speed signal is received by the restraints system control module over the high speed CAN bus.
The system is able to determine if contact is made with a pedestrian or another object, such as a traffic cone, using signals from accelerometers mounted behind the front bumper. When the system determines contact is made with a pedestrian it fires the actuators to lift the rear of the hood approximately 130 mm within 35 ms of the 'fire' signal.
When an impact condition is registered, the restraints system control module outputs an impact signal on the high speed CAN bus. This signal is used by the RJB to initiate the hazard warning lamps. If this occurs, the hazard warning lamp switch is disabled for the remainder of the current ignition cycle.
If the restraints system control module detects a fault with the system, it outputs a message on the high speed CAN bus to the instrument cluster message center. On receipt of this, the message center will display the message 'CHECK PEDESTRIAN SYSTEM'.
The restraints system control module also stores the VIN (vehicle identification number) . If a new control module is fitted to the vehicle the Jaguar approved diagnostic tool must be used to program the unit with the vehicles VIN .
When the vehicle is delivered from the factory the pedestrian protection system is in a 'safe' plant mode. Normal operating mode should be activated using the Jaguar approved diagnostic tool during the Pre-Delivery Inspection (PDI) prior to delivery to the customer. For additional information, refer to the PDI manual.
If any damage is caused to the front of the vehicle, be it cosmetic or structural, repairs must be carried out in line with the processes contained in the workshop manual. Failure to carry out the correct repair process could compromise operation of the pedestrian protection system. Refer to TOPIx for the latest information.
The vehicle must be left for 1 minute after disconnecting the battery before any work can be carried out on the pedestrian protection system.”
has the bumper had any work done to it, previously?
 
In the boot fuse compartment I have found F36 a red 10A fuse. The handbook describes as the fuse for "Pedestrian Protection System". I removed it to see what if any effects it would have. There were no messages, error codes, or problems arising.
I might put it back some time.;)
just after a slow moving old gentlemen bounces over your bonnet...

to paraphrase jasper carrot.
 
something tells me that you have to be careful with mods and even repairs made to the bumper.
Yes. It was done by previous owner. I am planning to take it off for ACC retrofit and will make sure everything is installed properly. I already upgraded the bumper in SDD. Maybe it has something to do with this PPS but there is a function for bumper replacement/upgrade.
 
In the boot fuse compartment I have found F36 a red 10A fuse. The handbook describes as the fuse for "Pedestrian Protection System". I removed it to see what if any effects it would have. There were no messages, error codes, or problems arising.
I might put it back some time.;)
Curios, I've just looked in my owner’s handbook and it says there is no fuse at F36 or to be ultra precise - -. However when I actually look there is indeed a red 10amp fuse. My car is a 2014 year and I wonder whether Jaguar purposely omitted this detail.

Attached is a cropped pic where you can hopefully see fuse 36 amongst others.

Out of interest Carpo what year is your car?

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In the boot fuse compartment I have found F36 a red 10A fuse. The handbook describes as the fuse for "Pedestrian Protection System". I removed it to see what if any effects it would have. There were no messages, error codes, or problems arising.
I might put it back some time.;)
Interesting!
 
I looked into this a few years ago.

On my 2012 XF - fuse 36 powers the RCM (Restraints Control Module).

Bizarrely no error is shown on the dash with fuse 36 removed - the module does show as not responding in SDD however.

As the RCM is directly wired to all of the airbags and the seat belt pretensioners in the car, I'd consider disabling the pedestrian protection system in some other way than pulling fuse 36.


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Curios, I've just looked in my owner’s handbook and it says there is no fuse at F36 or to ultra precise - -. However when I actually look there is indeed a red 10amp fuse. My car is a 2014 year and I wonder whether Jaguar purposely omitted this detail.

Atached is a cropped pic where you can hopefully see fuse 36 amongst others.

Out of interest Carpo what year is your car?

Its a 2014 2.2 Sportbrake.

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Many thanks for confirming. I have had a look at the “2012 XF - X250Comp electrical diags” file and lo and behold there is indeed a fuse mentioned at F36 and as per the attached screenshot. I need to see if this is unique or whether it fuses other systems. Early indications would suggest just the pedestrian system but I’m not yet 100% sure.
Just one other thought, surely a safety critical item powering seat belt restraints etc should be designed to warn a fuse (F36) has blown else you would be driving around blissfully unaware. Obviously I appreciate the pedestrain system could be classified as a safety critical componenet but in practice is it recognised as such.........

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I looked into this a few years ago.

On my 2012 XF - fuse 36 powers the RCM (Restraints Control Module).

Bizarrely no error is shown on the dash with fuse 36 removed - the module does show as not responding in SDD however.

As the RCM is directly wired to all of the airbags and the seat belt pretensioners in the car, I'd consider disabling the pedestrian protection system in some other way than pulling fuse 36.


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mine shows fuse 35 for the restraints control module. The on-line handbook confirms this. Maybe the earlier models combined the RCM and the PPE under the one fuse?
 
mine shows fuse 35 for the restraints control module. The on-line handbook confirms this. Maybe the earlier models combined the RCM and the PPE under the one fuse?
I'm confused now!

The wiring diagram shows that the RCM is powered by F36 - and the pedestrian sensors, impact sensors and all airbags are connected/receive power from the RCM. According to the wiring diagram - it would appear there is no separate module for the pedestrian system.

Having searched the wiring diagram - there is no mention of F35... it seems there is some variation between the model years.

I'm tempted to go look in my boot and see if I have a fuse in slot 35!
 

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I've just looked... My 2012 does not have a a fuse 35.
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The pedestrian module is located above the bonnet release handle on the passenger side of the car. This pdf explains:
Ah yes, just had a look.

There's no mention of it in the wiring diagram, but it clearly exists... so I'm not sure what's going on now [emoji23]

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My instincts would suggest one could remove that module in its entirety or even just disconnect the 2 plugs that feed it and the rest of the car systems wouldn't know it ever existed. Now who's feeling brave........
 

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My instincts would suggest one could remove that module in its entirety or even just disconnect the 2 plugs that feed it and the rest of the car systems wouldn't know it ever existed. Now who's feeling brave........
Mmmm. Don't think so.
This is what sits in the A pillar.
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So there are some significant differences between earlier and later XF's. Would be good if fuse F36 in the luggage compartment could be identified and why there are suggestions it is connected to the pedestrian system and elsewhere no mention of it. As I said earlier my handbook shows F36 as being unoccupied and yet there is a 10 amp fuse there and in a 2014 car.
 
So there are some significant differences between earlier and later XF's. Would be good if fuse F36 in the luggage compartment could be identified and why there are suggestions it is connected to the pedestrian system and elsewhere no mention of it. As I said earlier my handbook shows F36 as being unoccupied and yet there is a 10 amp fuse there and in a 2014 car.
Mine is MY2012 facelift. In the wiring diagram that I have, fuses are not shown in PPS nor RCM diagrams. However in my handbook F35 is mentioned to be for SRS (RCM) and F36 is listed for PPS. I couldn’t check what fuses are installed in my car. Try downloading the user manual from Jaguar website for free. “Maybe” there has been a revision to what came with yours. You could check it using publication part number.

I am wondering if two XF in this discussion with false deployed PPS are prefacelift? It seems the system has restructured in facelifts and maybe there was a reason behind it?
 
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