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I believe the service is just an collerateral "damage". Wait a few days. If it still pops up, you might use the service function <Powertrain - Oil service counter reset> to reset it.

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Dirk
I did wonder if that might be the case to be fair, but I'm not too fussed if it flags up that it needs a service, as I said it's probably true, it probably does need one... I'm quite happy to get it serviced now I know how to fix it if it bricks itself and especially once I can resolve the 'bricking itself' problem altogether. The wife and I have been discussing it and this car has had so much money spent on it now, it's staying with us forever... just like our 300zx, we bought that in 2010 when we came back to the UK from NZ and it had so many things wrong with it, that it we spent a fortune just keeping it on the road and it resulted in a full engine rebuild with oversized pistons, forged engine internals, refurbished and upgraded turbos, a full re-map, full suspension upgrade, even as far as a one piece carbon fibre prop shaft being installed, full bodykit and ICE install, etc. and we still have the car 13 years later.
 
Glad you got it sorted.
Let us know how you get in with the X-Prog.
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Glad to hear all the good news (y)

I wonder if the non-functional washer pump on my XKR is anything to do with a corrupt CJB? It was working one day, then not the next. Battery never went flat, nor was it disconnected. It's been disconnected since the issue was discovered but with no further issues noted. Non-functional washer pump on a 2010 XKR has not been noted before as a similar issue as the XF suffers, unless anyone is any the wiser? XK and XF electrical systems are very similar.
 
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Discussion starter · #44 ·
Glad to hear all the good news (y)

I wonder if the non-functional washer pump on my XKR is anything to do with a corrupt CJB? It was working one day, then not the next. Battery never went flat, nor was it disconnected. It's been disconnected since the issue was discovered but with no further issues noted. Non-functional washer pump on a 2010 XKR has not been noted before as a similar issue as the XF suffers, unless anyone is any the wiser? XK and XF electrical systems are very similar.
I've not seen it documented anywhere that this problem exists on the XK and to my knowledge, this is restricted as far as XF's go to the facelift X250s (2012 - 2015) and doesn't exist on the pre-facelift <2012 cars, or the X260 (2016>). That's not to say it definitely isn't a problem on the XK, but I would imagine it more likely on the XK to be a relay or fuse issue. Does the XK have headlight washers and do they work? One of the quirks on the XF suffering from this problem, is that the headlight washers still work, despite being on the same fuse and relay as the windscreen washers... this all just added to the confusion for me when I was originally changing out my washer pump, as I first cleaned out the filter on the pump, then got the wife to try the washers, so she started the car, tried the washers and the headlight washers would fire, but not the windscreen washers, then both would stop working altogether... replaced the pump and tried again, exactly the same thing happened... when I researched it, I discovered the headlight washers on the XF only fire if the lights are on and ONLY every 4th time you use the washer and ONLY if it's been 10 minutes since the headlight washers last fired... talk about difficult to diagnose unless you're fully clued up on the systems.
 
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Nice to know: XF with washers for headlights and windscreen have two small separate pumps. Just saw it during my repair. They are installed at different hights of the water tank.


Dirk
 
I can't offer any advice that would help you any further than the excellent help that you've already had so far @HollowPoint.. but I can offer you the attached to print out and attach to the top of the main battery to help you in case you have a moment of forgetfulness and then end going down yet another rabbit/worm hole of X250 facelift CJB/BCM nonsense...

Want to guess why I needed it... :rolleyes:
 

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I don't know if my headlamp washers still work, I've not got that far in diagnosing issues. I could cope very easily without them, but not the screen washer. The windscreen washers don't have a fuse or relay, the pump is directly driven by the CJB. Headlamp washers do have a fuse and relay. Car is booked with the local Jag independent for investigation. They've suggested it may need a new CJB.
 
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Discussion starter · #48 ·
I don't know if my headlamp washers still work, I've not got that far in diagnosing issues. I could cope very easily without them, but not the screen washer. The windscreen washers don't have a fuse or relay, the pump is directly driven by the CJB. Headlamp washers do have a fuse and relay. Car is booked with the local Jag independent for investigation. They've suggested it may need a new CJB.
hmmmm does sound like it might be possible to reprogram it then, but you'd probably have to plug it into an XProg device to find out if there was any corruption in the CJB, unless SDD actually tells you there is, like it does on the XF? If SDD tells you the VIN is corrupted/belonging to another car, then it's possible the same fix might work... could be a gamble though. They'll probably also tell you that the CJB must be genuine and brand new from Jaguar though, which is probably about as true as it is on the XF, being that it isn't true at all... lol
 
Discussion starter · #49 ·
I can't offer any advice that would help you any further than the excellent help that you've already had so far @HollowPoint.. but I can offer you the attached to print out and attach to the top of the main battery to help you in case you have a moment of forgetfulness and then end going down yet another rabbit/worm hole of X250 facelift CJB/BCM nonsense...

Want to guess why I needed it... :rolleyes:
That's very helpful mate, I may just print that out and stick it to the battery :ROFLMAO:
 
hmmmm does sound like it might be possible to reprogram it then, but you'd probably have to plug it into an XProg device to find out if there was any corruption in the CJB, unless SDD actually tells you there is, like it does on the XF? If SDD tells you the VIN is corrupted/belonging to another car, then it's possible the same fix might work... could be a gamble though. They'll probably also tell you that the CJB must be genuine and brand new from Jaguar though, which is probably about as true as it is on the XF, being that it isn't true at all... lol
I've already asked if they can reprogram a used CJB, as they did mention that some variants of the CJB are on backorder, and have been for the last 2 years! He said he can, so I have one in the post. Even if I don't need it, I'll keep it in my just-in-case parts stock.
 
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I've already asked if they can reprogram a used CJB, as they did mention that some variants of the CJB are on backorder, and have been for the last 2 years! He said he can, so I have one in the post. Even if I don't need it, I'll keep it in my just-in-case parts stock.
That's good news, in theory though, if he can virginise a used CJB, he can probably fix your existing one by taking the backup from the flash memory and flashing it back to the EProm same as with an XF CJB... so yeah, you might end up with a spare one, which by the sounds of things, would be useful.
 
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