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I'm with you 100%.
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That's weird, according to the offers I've received from Carwow, they are in stock.
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Usually it's the other way round.
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The range isn't very good at around 200 miles & the front is a bit ugly... but not as ugly as the M50 though.
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Problem solved...
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ID. Buzz | New 2022 Electric Van | Volkswagen Vans UK
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Saw one Saturday morning on the way to breakfast club. Funky looking.Problem solved...
ID. Buzz | New 2022 Electric Van | Volkswagen Vans UK
Explore the new 2022 Volkswagen ID. Buzz, equipped with advanced technology & a flexible interior for intelligent seating. Explore specs, dimensions & more.
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Crap range. Doesn’t surprise me though considering Toyota have been against EV for years.
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If they were £40K I'd consider one as a second vehicle. £60K - £70K is a bit steep for a van.
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Prices are falling in China so that should filter through to the rest of the world this year. It might not turn out to be a blessing though because only Tesla & BYD currently make a profit on EV sales. Manufacturers will face legislators forcing them to make unprofitable vehicles during a global recession, while raw materials prices rise, selling prices drop, & they’re spending massive amounts on R&D & new tooling.
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The cost of making the batteries is falling (economies of scale) but the cost of the raw materials has gone up along with transport costs.
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There was a bit of EV slating going on with BBC Radio 2 at lunchtime, a little was about the range and manufacturers apparently misleading - although the same can be said about MPG figures, but the main bulk of complaints was charging stations being out of order etc and this not being known by the car when taking them there. Do the charging stations not report to the cars when they are out of order or are in use?
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Tesla are the only one that report out of service chargers as far as I know.
Manufacturers have to state the NEDC (now WLTP) range tests for vehicles sold in Europe. These are wildly optimistic for EVs & you'll see that many manufacturers have a range calculator on their website so you can enter your personal driving parameters & get an accurate estimate of summer & winter range.
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I suppose it's only really going to affect people who can't charge at home and do more than say 200 miles in a day - which I suspect isn't a huge amount.
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The Korean government has recently fined Tesla for misleading consumers about range etc. To be fair, from what I have picked up on various groups the Korean cars do seem to have the best range V cost and don’t seem to suffer from the cold as much as some. I guess the action against Tesla is slightly protectionist. I’ve also picked up that PSA have the worst drop in cold weather, I know this first hand too as my van was shocking in December. If EV’s are the future its looking pretty bleak at the moment.
James May sums it up pretty well.
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James May sums it up pretty well.
James May: ‘I’m nearly at the age where I'll choose one final car – this is what I hope it will be’
The TV presenter takes stock of the EV situation. He enjoys battery cars, but fears the public charging infrastructure could hinder demand
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