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Kia EV6 GT or keep the iPace for another year.

The Audi E-Tron GT would be my choice if it fit your budget.

 

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Just seen that early photos of the BMW i5 Touring have been released. Here is the All-Electric BMW i5 Touring - Spy Photos

The BMW i4 M Sport is £58K so the entry point of the i5 Touring will be at least £80K which will make the rental price similar to the E-Tron.

 

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Tesla Model Y?

Not exactly a 'looker' is it.

 

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The luddites at the DT won't be happy.

V2L has to be a consideration ...?

I think they really appreciate it when you share your wisdom with them.

Keep up the good work.

 

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Was that angle 360°

If you live near a cliff it's not a bad car choice. It hit the ground at 103mph assuming was travelling at 60mph to break the barrier.

Doctor arrested for attempted murder after driving family off 250ft cliff

Dharmesh Patel steered his Tesla off the road deliberately, officers claim, as rescuers say occupants' survival was 'absolute miracle'

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

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i4 M50 looks like the only car that fits your criteria.

 

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Yep, but the prices currently are eye watering. Hopefully that comes down.

It's not too bad & must be reasonably close to your budget assuming you don't go mad on options.

£881 + vat 6+47

 

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Is that for 3 year/15k miles?

6+47 15K pa

I only looked at one site so I'm sure there are better deals around.

 

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Perhaps you should try the M50 & make up your own mind about it. I'm struggling to think of anything else that fits your criteria since you've excluded Kia & Tesla.

There's an electric A6 on the horizon that's supposed to be kicking off at £50K but I'd guess that you'd not want the poverty spec after having an iPace?

 

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I do lilke the look of that.

The latest estimates are for a starting price of £60,000 for the single motor RWD version. It doesn't therefore look as if you're going to get much change from £80,000 for the basic AWD model.

 

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The basic E-Tron GT is £84K with a smaller battery & with a few essential options it's nearer £90K.

 

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My first motor was a datsun sunny ...

... and look at how you turned out!

 

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There is the standard i4 of course. That's get inside of your budget even with options.

 

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I think I like the new Lexus RZ.

The range isn't very good at around 200 miles & the front is a bit ugly... but not as ugly as the M50 though.

 

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Problem solved...

ID. Buzz | New 2022 Electric Van | Volkswagen Vans UK

Explore the new 2022 Volkswagen ID. Buzz, equipped with advanced technology & a flexible interior for intelligent seating. Explore specs, dimensions & more.

www.volkswagen-vans.co.uk

 

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Saw one Saturday morning on the way to breakfast club. Funky looking.


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If they were £40K I'd consider one as a second vehicle. £60K - £70K is a bit steep for a van.

 

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Not to derail this thread, but are these crazy EV prices reflective of the actual cost of making them, or is it because they aren't sold in big enough numbers yet to drive the prices down? Or some other reason?

Prices are falling in China so that should filter through to the rest of the world this year. It might not turn out to be a blessing though because only Tesla & BYD currently make a profit on EV sales. Manufacturers will face legislators forcing them to make unprofitable vehicles during a global recession, while raw materials prices rise, selling prices drop, & they’re spending massive amounts on R&D & new tooling.

 

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I sure I read that batteries are far cheaper now, but the cars seem to be geting more expensive. Even that awful cheap looking Chinese Ora Funky Cat thing is £30k+, it looks like it should cost half that.

The cost of making the batteries is falling (economies of scale) but the cost of the raw materials has gone up along with transport costs.

 

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There was a bit of EV slating going on with BBC Radio 2 at lunchtime, a little was about the range and manufacturers apparently misleading - although the same can be said about MPG figures, but the main bulk of complaints was charging stations being out of order etc and this not being known by the car when taking them there. Do the charging stations not report to the cars when they are out of order or are in use?

Tesla are the only one that report out of service chargers as far as I know.

Manufacturers have to state the NEDC (now WLTP) range tests for vehicles sold in Europe. These are wildly optimistic for EVs & you'll see that many manufacturers have a range calculator on their website so you can enter your personal driving parameters & get an accurate estimate of summer & winter range.

 

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I know but it’s a terrible one.


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I thought it was quite humorous.