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Our I-PACE is now 2 years old (well it will be in a few weeks). We have it on a 3 year lease so that means it's only a year before it goes back. Due to the current lead times for ordering some new vehicles (in excess of 12 months in some cases) we are starting to think about the I-PACE's replacement. Requirements:

  1. 拢800 plus VAT budget
  2. 3 year/15k per year business lease
  3. No Teslas (don't like them, their business practices, etc.)
  4. No Hyundai/Kia (current models are ugly IMO, interior quality is lacking) and big
  5. No big SUV (yes, I know the I-PACE is technically and SUV)
I've specifically called out the Hyundais/Kias as people bang on about the EV6 and Ioniq 5, but personally I find them hideous and huge. According to an EV group I'm on, apparently I'm a badge snob as I'm not considering them or the MG5.
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So what's out there that I haven't thought of? The Taycan/eTron GT were on my radar, but with recent price rises, even the base models are a little pricey now. We are going to have a look at the BMW i4 but with a front end only a mother could love, I'm not sure that's a winner. With no changes to the I-PACE coming - and MY23 cars being more expensive with less spec than our MY21 we won't be getting a new one, it'll be 2025 before we see the all-new I-PACE. That said, if we can't find a suitable replacement, I may look to extend the lease for our current I-PACE for another year as hopefully 2025, Jaguar will let us all know what's going on with their next model (won't hold my breath).

Others cars I've seen mentioned:

Fisker Ocean - Looks kinda big - unknown brand in the UK really - What will aftersales be Like
Genesis GV60 - Same as the Fisker - unknown aftersales
Mercedes EQE (Non-SUV) - could be pricey like the Etron/Taycan
Lotus Eletre - Same as the Merc above
Polestar 2 - We very nearly ordered one before the I-PACE. I like them, but not we have already chosen the I-PACE over it so it would feel like a backwards step.
Polestar 3 - Another SUV
Audi A6 e-Tron Avant - a style I would love, but again, prices will be high.


So far, the winning idea is extend the lease on our current car.
 
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The only other one I'd look out for is the ID7. There's a couple of teaser images out so difficult to tell if you'd like it or not.

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Saw that yesterday. Kinda like it, but I'll wait for the Skoda version as apparently they don't have the awful haptic feedback "buttons" like the VWs.
 
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If you are able to extend the lease on the iPace and like it, why change? As you say, that will take you into 2025 and hopefully some new Jaguar "i" models.
I'm not holding my breath on the new Jaguar EVs. The previous CEO said they were moing upmarket and aiming for the likes of Aston Martin and Bentley. If the new CEO carries on that decision, they'll price out most of the current customer base.
 

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The Genesis got a v good write up in Autocar. V good ride/handling and build quality according to them. And since it is basically a luxo Hyundai, service shouldn't be an issue?
I don't think it's serviced by local Hyundai dealers and the sales offices are all in the south. They apparently deliver everything to you and take your car away for servicing. It's just a bit of an unknown.
 

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Can't stand the EV6. Ugly as hell.

Everywhere I've looked so far puts the e-Tron GT at ~拢1200 for our term and mileage and that's with 6 months upfront.
 

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The BMW i4 M Sport is 拢58K so the entry point of the i5 Touring will be at least 拢80K which will make the rental price similar to the E-Tron.
Yep.
 

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I think supply will improve massively on EV鈥檚 this year, there seems to be plenty of stock around if you aren't stuck on a specific model. I imagine there will be a lot of cancelled orders too.
I hope so. Hopefully that not only opens up other options but also reduces the prices as supply will be better.
 

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I agree. Lots of second hand EVs as PCPs and leased cars come to an end. Tesla Model 3s in freefall (Model 3P down by about 拢112k in last 12 months!). I've kept an eye on second hand electric Minis; same thing. I was watch a Level 2 at a car supermarket - dropped by 拢5500 over the last 14 days AND now with a 拢500 deposit contribution.

This is prices adjusting after the silly prices of the last 18 months! Some cracking deals out there, and more to come I expect. For both new and used. My old Tesla is still for sale (the one with the horrid body kit!); now worth about 拢8k less than they gave me as a PX!! Some burnt fingers....
Down by 拢112k? Are they paying you to have one now?
 
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Sorry! 12k.

As an aside, I had an email from Peugeot this morning - I was looking at the E208 the other week. Albeit with a 40% deposit, Pug are doing 0% soon for new ones soon! I think they have lots of early ones coming onto the 2nd hand market soon...
Before we decided to share a car (as we both work from home and don't often need two cars) we were looking at the E208 as it was on the Wife's salary sacrifice list. Looked pretty good tbh.
 

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GLC Hybrid? That does over 60 miles on helectric, so low(er) salary sacrifice tax rate.
Nope.


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i4 M50 looks like the only car that fits your criteria.
Yep, but the prices currently are eye watering. Hopefully that comes down.
 

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It's not too bad & must be reasonably close to your budget assuming you don't go mad on options.

拢881 + vat 6+47
Is that for 3 year/15k miles?
 

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6+47 15K pa

I only looked at one site so I'm sure there are better deals around.
Ah yes, sorry. I don't really want a 4 year deal. I'll have to have a look round. Need to test drive one.
 

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3+35. 15k miles. :(

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