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I think they really appreciate it when you share your wisdom with them. :D

Keep up the good work.(y)
On it.

Moderated...
But not banned....yet.

Mumsnet next.

Look out for Pearl Neclesse

( it's exotic)
 

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I agree. Lots of second hand EVs as PCPs and leased cars come to an end. Tesla Model 3s in freefall (Model 3P down by about £112k in last 12 months!). I've kept an eye on second hand electric Minis; same thing. I was watch a Level 2 at a car supermarket - dropped by £5500 over the last 14 days AND now with a £500 deposit contribution.

This is prices adjusting after the silly prices of the last 18 months! Some cracking deals out there, and more to come I expect. For both new and used. My old Tesla is still for sale (the one with the horrid body kit!); now worth about £8k less than they gave me as a PX!! Some burnt fingers....
I'm starting to look after my battery a bit better now.
With a bit of luck , my (borrowed) M3 might be a bit of a bargain when the time comes.
 
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I would also add that this price levelling is a good thing, making EVs more accessible in terms of price. Just a shame about cost of borrowing and the 'less than good' press that EVs have received in recent weeks!


Indeed. Buy it cheap; sell and pay a little extra for a Performance?!!!
The plan may well be to buy it and run it .
The BIK tax advantages may well be diminished to the extent that it's no longer advantageous to take the Co car option.
If I'm still about and working, it looks like me sticking the car allowance into the pension and buying seems like a decent idea.
 
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The Q4 E-Tron S-Line that we test drove had many many things missing that you would expect in £50k car.

What about the Nissan Aryia?

Their top line model has everything including a 300+ mile range for around £55k

I was mightily impressed with it. Had the pre-loved iPace not come up, we probably would be driving one.
Does it come with no badge option ( front and back)?
It's arguably their best motor yet...tbf.
 

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We struggled with the Nissan badge but having owned a Pathfinder for 5 years we weren’t worried about the build quality or reliability.
My first motor was a datsun sunny ...
 

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The cost of making the batteries is falling (economies of scale) but the cost of the raw materials has gone up along with transport costs.
And the kiddiewinkles mining union have got them all a payrise.
 

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There was a bit of EV slating going on with BBC Radio 2 at lunchtime, a little was about the range and manufacturers apparently misleading - although the same can be said about MPG figures, but the main bulk of complaints was charging stations being out of order etc and this not being known by the car when taking them there. Do the charging stations not report to the cars when they are out of order or are in use?
Zapmap reports but I'm not sure on how quick the reports come through.
Tesla nav gives you the status of available bays.
 

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The Korean government has recently fined Tesla for misleading consumers about range etc. To be fair, from what I have picked up on various groups the Korean cars do seem to have the best range V cost and don’t seem to suffer from the cold as much as some. I guess the action against Tesla is slightly protectionist. I’ve also picked up that PSA have the worst drop in cold weather, I know this first hand too as my van was shocking in December. If EV’s are the future its looking pretty bleak at the moment.
James May sums it up pretty well.

I've read that ...many of the DT commentators are seriously mental.
 

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Interesting, I wonder why these people on the radio were having such problems. They never mentioned what cars they had though and I'm guessing like reviews, it will always be the few disgruntled who shout the loudest!
The DT has been a riot ( plenty writeups on EVs recently )..and I've made ever so many new friends over the past few weeks
We were directed to Tebay on the 27th and thought "sod that"...it was bound to be busy.
We arrived home with zero range but enough in the tank.
The nav will direct you to all known charger networks ( not just tesla), I suspect that many didn't know that.
 

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They said that they were being directed to chargers, presumably by their navs? That's what my first thought was, but when they got there the chargers were either taken up or those remaining were broke. It would have been helpful if they had said what cars they were in though.
I wonder just how many had little experience in making long journeys , using an EV?
The nav will inform tesla drivers of available bays, granted.
What that can't do is inform anyone of the queue , should no bays be available.
What the media did not run a story on was the, say, 400k EV drivers had no issues charging.
What I won't be doing is going on my longer commutes on less than 100% charge , just in case AND will even top up the car well before needed ,again, just in case.
 

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Yeah it would be kinda difficult to inform of queue sizes lol Although, come to think of it, would it be so hard? Google Maps uses people's phones to determine traffic density, so could Tesla use GPS signals from Tesla cars around the charging station to gauge an estimate - obviously just an estimate as some may just be parked up not needing a charge. Not sure how it would work with other manufacturers but that would be pretty cool.
That's isn't a daft idea tbf.
Tesla uses Google maps, you may already know this.
We will share the patent royalties.
That said, it's in the open so our patent monies won't happen.

( can't imagine it'd get through data protection blah de blah)
 
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...HR have dropped me a line.
My lease allowance and opt out payments have jumped ( to reflect the market).
Not much use to me, as I've got some time yet before I start looking.
However, like James May, my current car ( swidt) or whatever I get next- will probably be my last.
However, let's see what I can get for my pennies....
 

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Ooh. Genesis is an option and an etron thing.
Shown Debs a pic of the latest "Genesis "
She loved it.
I then revealed the badge...looks like she likes iPaces 😁

( still holding out for a S Plaid... mind )
 

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Rumour has it that there's a performance version of the Plaid on the cards with 1200 bhp (rather than the measly 1050bhp of the standard 9.2s quarter mile version). You do have to pay for uprated brakes to get the extra bhp though.
and some big pull up pants
this Co are posting this.
very interesting.
13 miles a year ??
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I see Elon is up to his old tricks again and slashing the price of his cars, it’s a bit of a kick in the nuts for anyone who bought one recently.
Isn't it great!
Hopefully the 2nd hand values will remain low when I'm ready to buy mine off the Co lease outfit.
 

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Good luck with your new EV. Enjoy your charging times and challenges. As long as you stay in town with short trips and charge at home it may work for you. I find on longer trips it is a real pain and time waster charging. Cheers
Sound advice...Will take this onboard.
 

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It'll be quite beneficial for me when I buy mine from my company - less of the 100% capital allowance to repay, less corporation tax & less dividend tax.
At that rate, tesla will owe you..
 
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