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My heart specialist said I'm now to avoid alcohol. How long for? I asked. Life was his reply. Glad he didn't say I have to stop consumption of, just avoid.
 
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My heart specialist said I'm now to avoid alcohol. How long for? I asked. Life was his reply. Glad he didn't say I have to stop consumption of, just avoid.
I assume that is due to the meds.
I can't think of many medical conditions, except perhaps alcoholism, where total abstinence is required..
 

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My heart specialist said I'm now to avoid alcohol. How long for? I asked. Life was his reply. Glad he didn't say I have to stop consumption of, just avoid.
For no real reason, I haven't had an alcoholic drink for nigh on 2 years. And you know what? I'm missing nothing.
In my humblest of opinions, like ANY drug, if you need it to enjoy life then perhaps you should be analysing your life.

Incoming . . . . . :oops:
 
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For no real reason, I haven't had an alcoholic drink for nigh on 2 years. And you know what? I'm missing nothing.
In my humblest of opinions, like ANY drug, if you need it to enjoy life then perhaps you should be analysing your life.

Incoming . . . . . :oops:
I've not had a drink for 6 weeks now. Mainly because I'm trying to lose some weight (7.5kg so far) and I've not missed it one little bit.



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For no real reason, I haven't had an alcoholic drink for nigh on 2 years. And you know what? I'm missing nothing.
In my humblest of opinions, like ANY drug, if you need it to enjoy life then perhaps you should be analysing your life.

Incoming . . . . . :oops:
Why incoming..?
You are entitled to hold that view, of course.

I would, however, ask you to reconsider your stance.

Many forum members here rely on ( ANY) drug(s) to have any life at all, let alone enjoy it.

I will ask the question, John...didn't your late grandad say anything in moderation ?

And....why did you drink alcohol before giving up?

I like to consume all manner of alcoholic beverages.
I have never got myself into trouble with my exploits, I'm never a nasty drunk, I admit to have got absolutely wankered on countless occasions but the vast majority of the time I spend drinking I'm rarely unfit to drive the next day...and should I be, I don't drive.
 

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Alcohol is just another drug which some would argue is far more harmful than canabis. But a drug that history, culture and society has made acceptable. Not as harmful or deadly as religion but hopefully one day, humans will dispense with both.
We're on the road to consigning tobacco to the history books. I believe alcohol will follow.
 
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Not sure about that, but a valid opinion anyway. ;)
 

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Alcohol is just another drug which some would argue is far more harmful than canabis. But a drug that history, culture and society has made acceptable. Not as harmful or deadly as religion but hopefully one day, humans will dispense with both.
We're on the road to consigning tobacco to the history books. I believe alcohol will follow.
Having my eldest son turn into an utterly evil little sh.it due to his beloved mummy insisting that cannabis is less harmful than an occasional can of Fosters , I will argue with bitter ( see what I did there) experience that the use of cannabis ( if only it was the stuff that was about 30 yrs back,..not that I smoked it- I was more of a LSD and speed chap) can be FAR more dangerous ( let's pls put drunk in charge to one side) than booze.
Whilst alcohol is or can be very addictive, I don't believe that it is a gateway drug like cannabis.
At the back and to the side of Deb's work is a Sally Army hostel and around the corner is a bail hostel.
The sights I see both at 9am , when I take her in and at 2pm when she leaves work can be both utterly soul destroying and/ or hilarious...
We have Spice addicts literally frozen in time, like the spray painted mime artists you may have seen...and pop heads having a fight over a bottle of scab laced, lukewarm, Frosty Jack....one of them could quite easily be my eldest but DEFINITELY will be the son of one of my oldest and closest mates ( drugs, spice or heroin)

I fail to see just how some argue that we should legalise the use of Cannabis as I firmly believe that it can lead to the use of class A.

Anyway.... if alcohol was banned, it wouldn't bother me seriously.

I'd just brew my own....

Who here has ever visited a Temperance Bar?
 

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I know how destructive canabis can be. (Nephew). But comparing two bad things and declaring one to be a bit less bad than the other is hardly a glowing endorsement. Alcohol can and does destroy lives. And apart from personal gratification, I now no longer see any virtue in it.
 

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I know how destructive canabis can be. (Nephew). But comparing two bad things and declaring one to be a bit less bad than the other is hardly a glowing endorsement. Alcohol can and does destroy lives. And apart from personal gratification, I now no longer see any virtue in it.
I get it totally , sir.

I wasn't looking to endorse one or the other...in fact I made a point of noting both spice heads and pop heads......though the excessive use of alcohol is more likely to result in alcoholism, whereas cannabis etc etc.


Are you in favour of banning the consumption of red meat, the internal combustion engine ( regardless of whether they are fed by proper or supermarket fuel) Kellogs Frosties, trans fats etc ?

Of course not... though trans fats would be on my list.

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Back OT...

Today I had a few pints of refreshing Pepsi max, with luncheon and this evening a couple bottles of no less refreshing San Miguel.
 
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Good timing as the other day I got tagged for a video on Facebook by a friend which was about drug addiction and it was an interesting watch.

Incidentally, I've got a good mate who likes to do some marching, a little too much. It used to be an annual treat at the very most. But his personal life steadily went downhill and when it hit rock bottom and became very nasty over the last year the 'treat' became an every weekend ritual. I'm guessing the main purpose is escapism from the stress, which has clearly aged him visually.

 

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Back in the day "suicide sunday" ( coming down after a two day session) was a nightmare.

Like John, with alcohol, I stopped one day and dont miss that type of stuff one jot ( I was 22)

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Thought I'd heard of this chap, a bit of a charlatan and fraudster.
IIRC he was sacked by the Indy.

However, an interesting watch.
 

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Are you in favour of banning the consumption of red meat, the internal combustion engine ( regardless of whether they are fed by proper or supermarket fuel) Kellogs Frosties, trans fats etc ?

Of course not... though trans fats would be on my list.

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You really cannot make those comparisons. They are not the same. While red meat, the ICE, Frosties, trans fats, etc., etc., can be argued to be detrimental to your health, that is a (possible) side effect in each case. The sole 'raison d'etre' of alcohol is to mess with your brain. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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You really cannot make those comparisons. They are not the same. While red meat, the ICE, Frosties, trans fats, etc., etc., can be argued to be detrimental to your health, that is a (possible) side effect in each case. The sole 'raison d'etre' of alcohol is to mess with your brain. Nothing more, nothing less.
Of course I can make those comparisons, I just did, John.

Alcohol initially releases serotonin...which is " in simple terms" a feel good endorphin.
Chocolate, fast driving, fun fair rides etc all cause the release of similar endorphins.

Whether brain messing is a simple by product, or not, is irrelevant.
People eat chocolate, drive fast etc as it makes them feel good...relaxed, fearful , excited etc.

Forgive me for repeating this but " anything in moderation"
 

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We must agree to differ, Dave.
But that's what a friendly forum is all about.
 
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We must agree to differ, Dave.
But that's what a friendly forum is all about.
no worries sir.

As it feels like nearly noon, I'm cracking open a cold one ( which may sound like inuit necrophilia. ..but it isnt) ..in a bit.
 

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no worries sir.

As it feels like nearly noon, I'm cracking open a cold one ( which may sound like inuit necrophilia. ..but it isnt) ..in a bit.
I'll join you, sir, and raise my glass. Remotely but in spirit only (see what I did there?!!). Not only have I been advised to avoid alcohol, I'm also on restricted amount of daily fluids. This is temporary while I recover. The (prescribed) drugs are having an affect, I'm already less breathless and the coughing less. I can now reach to top of the stars in one go, rest for breath, where previously it was 2 rests on the stairs and at the top.
 

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I'll join you, sir, and raise my glass. Remotely but in spirit only (see what I did there?!!). Not only have I been advised to avoid alcohol, I'm also on restricted amount of daily fluids. This is temporary while I recover. The (prescribed) drugs are having an affect, I'm already less breathless and the coughing less. I can now reach to top of the stars in one go, rest for breath, where previously it was 2 rests on the stairs and at the top.
Good man.

Truly delighted that you're well on the way to full health.
 

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Will be raising a glass to you both, and everyone else, dreckly.. (y)

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