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I'm sure the dead tree press will be allover this...but the Tesla app has issues.
I only spotted that mine has failed when octopus would not communicate.
 

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This is always going to be an issue with newer cars and smart chargers. I prefer to use the scheduling in the car for charging etc rather than using app based, or server based stuff as there's too much to go wrong.

I keep my charger set as a "dumb" charger and have the cars infotainment for the scheduling side of things.
 

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This is always going to be an issue with newer cars and smart chargers. I prefer to use the scheduling in the car for charging etc rather than using app based, or server based stuff as there's too much to go wrong.

I keep my charger set as a "dumb" charger and have the cars infotainment for the scheduling side of things.
I do both - the smart charger is set for Intelligent Octopus off peak 23.30 - 05.30 & the Octopus app can schedule the charge inside that window. If the app fails, the car charges for the full 6 hour window.
 

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I do both - the smart charger is set for Intelligent Octopus off peak 23.30 - 05.30 & the Octopus app can schedule the charge inside that window. If the app fails, the car charges for the full 6 hour window.
Which charger do you have? I have a hypervolt and the scheduling is server based, so I don't use it.

Plus I'm octopus go, so I can just use the cars off peak scheduler.
 

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I do both - the smart charger is set for Intelligent Octopus off peak 23.30 - 05.30 & the Octopus app can schedule the charge inside that window. If the app fails, the car charges for the full 6 hour window.
I simply let octopus take control but adjust on the car app to optimise my smart charging opportunities.
the 13amp granny charger is a back up.
 

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Which charger do you have? I have a hypervolt and the scheduling is server based, so I don't use it.

Plus I'm octopus go, so I can just use the cars off peak scheduler.
I’ve got a Zappi… the scheduling is both server & local. I set the charger schedule mainly to prevent the annoying ghost charge when I first plug in. It can take octopus upto 15 minutes to stop the charging.


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Just a query, how many people, who have PV, would have enough excess solar to charge an EV? It'd also typically only be a trickle charge too. I know my Zappi can be set to use excess solar, but of course, same issue. Genuine query, I thought it was a bit silly being able to set my EVSE to only use excess solar.
 

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Just a query, how many people, who have PV, would have enough excess solar to charge an EV? It'd also typically only be a trickle charge too. I know my Zappi can be set to use excess solar, but of course, same issue. Genuine query, I thought it was a bit silly being able to set my EVSE to only use excess solar.
Since having solar I've been exporting about 25% - the Powerwall is set to Time-based control at the moment. It will predict how much it needs to add at night (if at all), and what energy will be consumed in the day / evening. As it would seem it should work with the Powerwall / Wal connector / Tesla, it should reduce most wastage. Later in the Spring I shall set it to Self-powered mode, which shifts the emphasis to day time charging from solar. On a good day I may end up getting c.24kWh, which is enough for my commute (c.18kWh in the warmer weather), plus a little bit. Grid use will be very low indeed.

As there is no cost, it should be good. 25% will be around 800-1000kWh a year - about 3500 Tesla miles.
 

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Just a query, how many people, who have PV, would have enough excess solar to charge an EV? It'd also typically only be a trickle charge too. I know my Zappi can be set to use excess solar, but of course, same issue. Genuine query, I thought it was a bit silly being able to set my EVSE to only use excess solar.
I really need to sit down and work out ( or seek advice from others and/or RTFM) on how to take full advantage of whatever sun we get oop north.
My system does require a tad more manual intervention but as we Brits are obsessed with the weather, I'm sure it'll work out.
 

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After prioritising battery charging & DHW, I still had a surplus of around 400kWh last year which went into the Tesla. That's 1500 miles of free motoring.

It makes sense for me to charge the car because I get paid for export regardless of whether I export or not (FIT).
 

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FIT wasn't very well thought out..... Good for consumers of course.
 

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FIT wasn't very well thought out..... Good for consumers of course.
I'm not complaining!:cool:

Not many people can afford domestic batteries so the grid is still doing rather well out of deemed export especially at these elevated prices. By the time batteries & EVs have enough presence to make a significant difference to the calculation, the FIT scheme will be virtually over. Meanwhile I'll continue to get paid for 2200kWh of export while only sending 79kWh to the grid - happy days.
 

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Doesn't the FIT scheme use the kWh meter installed on the inverter output to calculate generated power, so those with batteries that can be charged via the grid, get paid for the battery discharge too?
 

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Some schemes do, others simply assume a calculated annual output, and that 50% of that will be exported. I think the schemes changed with time.
 

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Doesn't the FIT scheme use the kWh meter installed on the inverter output to calculate generated power, so those with batteries that can be charged via the grid, get paid for the battery discharge too?
Those on the FIT scheme usually go for an AC coupled battery system rather than use a hybrid inverter. The complications of splitting solar output from grid charged output make compliance with the FIT scheme very difficult. An AC battery install is separate from the solar generation meter so you can carry on getting 50% deemed export.
 

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That makes sense. I queried with my installer why I have an export meter, that I've had to pay for, that is useless for any practical measurement. He just said it's a throwback to the FIT scheme and is required by law. I did ask which law but didn't persue it.
 
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