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It's one of those things, bits on cars break. Unusual on a Jag diff but there you go, such is life. Fingers crossed it's an easy enough and relatively inexpensive repair.
 
If you have to drive the car before it can be fixed, why not get the fluid topped up & avoid the risk of damaging the diff?
 
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This happened to me a couple of years back.
As the car was under warranty, Jaguar paid for a new diff.
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Ive been keeping an eye on how much is coming out. Bear in mind i saw a 20x20cm oily puddle on the floor in the driveway. TBF I had driven it properly hard for 20-30 minutes on some roads near Ripponden.

Since then, Ive had some cardboard down and it leaks about 2-3 drops every night. Short journeys usually 1 drop. Did a 30 mile trip yesterday and it leaked 3 drops.

Either way, the Jag indy said he'd do it, but he said its better off if I go to the main dealer to have it done because if the seals not sitting right it can trash the diff and hes heard some issues with F-types doing this.

Phone call to main dealer - £700 to sort it out. Phoned another few and its between £700 - £900. Bear in mind Ive also just spent £600 doing a headlight. Long story short, car has been traded in and ive taken a hit but hopefully I can sleep better at night. The car feels special but the main problem for me is I simply dont have time to be going up and down to the mechanic all the time.

Ive had it for 6 months and ive spent maybe £1500 on her so the boss (fiance) isnt happy.
 
I can kind of understand your decision in some ways, but I've found that they're not more unreliable than any other car.

The difference can often be that parts can be more expensive depending on what you need.

There's nothing to say you couldn't have had a few years of trouble free motoring (like the next owner will have at your expense).
 
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Unfortunately every proper car has troubles. Smaller cars can even run without an engine oil or many other parts for quite some time. A complete running engine on some of them might cost as much as a bill for diagnosis by a JLR specialist.
 
Either way, the Jag indy said he'd do it, but he said its better off if I go to the main dealer to have it done because if the seals not sitting right it can trash the diff and hes heard some issues with F-types doing this.
So the indi said he'd do it, but reluctantly, saying he'd maybe make a mess of the job? Not a very good indi then! The output seals just push in, any motor garage could do that. The input shaft seal maybe more difficult but it's all in the workshop manual. Working on a diff isn't difficult, easy enough to fully remove and work on the bench too, if required. Such a shame he's put you off ownership culminating on you parting with the car.

Makes me appreciate even more being in a position to work on my own cars with several that can be used if one is under repair.
 
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I can kind of understand your decision in some ways, but I've found that they're not more unreliable than any other car.

The difference can often be that parts can be more expensive depending on what you need.

There's nothing to say you couldn't have had a few years of trouble free motoring (like the next owner will have at your expense).
Unfortunately every proper car has troubles. Smaller cars can even run without an engine oil or many other parts for quite some time. A complete running engine on some of them might cost as much as a bill for diagnosis by a JLR specialist.
I suppose that's true. It might be completely fault free after this. Having said that it's been having "unusual" problems for an XE. Like a headlight motor issue and a diff leak at 52k. I realise the F-type suffer from these but not heard of XE S having a diff seal leak past about 20k miles.

The other issue is I use the car for work. I'm doing 250 miles a week even through lockdown and barely have any spare time to have issues fixed. My work times are awkward 3-12am, 8-3pm and night shifts so not exactly ideal.

I've had a couple of VAG cars and a Merc which was running fine at 77k miles which I traded in for the Jag and they didn't have anything major happen to them at all. Bear in mind all of them were running modifications too. The Jag has been more of a headache than them all in 6 months of ownership.

I suspect id be happier with a warranty on the car. The problem is the aftermarket ones are shite and Jag were just messing me about with putting a manufacturer warranty on it.

So in conclusion, it's a combination of unusual issues cropping up which are rather expensive, the dealers giving me a runaround when I try to put a warranty on it months ago and personal factors.

The car is amazing to drive. The XE-S definitely has a personality but the interior isn't the best quality wise and I haven't been able to use the performance as much as I would like. I absolutely love the car but it's just got to the point where it's starting to do my head in.
 
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So the indi said he'd do it, but reluctantly, saying he'd maybe make a mess of the job? Not a very good indi then! The output seals just push in, any motor garage could do that. The input shaft seal maybe more difficult but it's all in the workshop manual. Working on a diff isn't difficult, easy enough to fully remove and work on the bench too, if required. Such a shame he's put you off ownership culminating on you parting with the car.

Makes me appreciate even more being in a position to work on my own cars with several that can be used if one is under repair.
They just said some of the seals they've done started leaking after about 20k miles. One of the guys just came from Jaguar Huddersfield a few months ago and said the number of F-types they've changed the seals on which blew the diff even after being fitted properly was quite high so in some cases, they preferred to just replace the diff. Apparently it's uncommon for the diff to leak on an XE-S but not unheard of but the same problems apply.

I think they're just cautious of ruining the diff and having to pay for it after doing work on it

I only have the one car unfortunately. It's a bit difficult having a few at 25!:ROFLMAO:
 
I suspect they're either using rubbish/cheap quality or even the wrong seals. I've known single lip seals not fit properly where a double lip seal of the same "size" should have, or previously have been fitted.

The other thing that would cause this is poor refitting/misalignment of the diff which would put strain on one part of the diff.

There's no reason why some cars should be fine and others not unless they're not doing something right themselves.
 
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I suspect they're either using rubbish/cheap quality or even the wrong seals. I've known single lip seals not fit properly where a double lip seal of the same "size" should have, or previously have been fitted.

The other thing that would cause this is poor refitting/misalignment of the diff which would put strain on one part of the diff.

There's no reason why some cars should be fine and others not unless they're not doing something right themselves.
They just use the genuine part from JLR. Apparently an updated item compared to the previous versions
 
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