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Changed oil today at 13278 miles (had car 2 months) as I didn't fancy waiting for the 2yr/21k recommended period. Went to my local guys who do the things that I don't fancy tackling. Hardest part was taking off the Air Deflector under shield - getting all those bolts (18), screws (4) and studs (2) out, apart from that it was dead easy but it would be a pain attempting it just on axle stands. Oil was typically black coming out. The filter housing (just under top cover) was nice and clean inside and replacing filter a doddle. The original sump plug was strongly magnetic and had a fair bit of metal 'fluff' on it - replaced with a new 1. Also noticed the sump has a nice fluffy jacket. Engine takes 7 litres oil with filter change - put back 6.5 litres with dipstick showing oil half way between mid and max. Pictures below.

Cost: Castrol Oil at £15/litre, Filter (JLR) £16, plug (JLR) £6. Labour £30 :eek:.

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That should keep the warranty happy. Might give the vacuum method a go next time.

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I'd definitely go the extraction route next time!

I've read somewhere on here that the extraction method removes virtually as much oil as dropping the sump plug. I'm sure someone dropped the plug and get an egg cup of oil out after it had been sucked out of the top.

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Yes David, even JLR stealers do it. Looks easy compared to fiddling with all those bolts/screws. But wanted to do it via the sump for the 1st go - also gave me opportunity to get a look underneath.

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The top extraction method is a game changer. Takes me about 45 minutes from start to finish and I hardly get my hands dirty.
 
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I have done the top extraction method for years, usually in a dinner jacket and bow tie! Phil
 
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The problem is no-one knows if the dipstick tube goes down enough into the sump, no-one has used this method and measured the oil volume coming out.
 

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The problem is no-one knows if the dipstick tube goes down enough into the sump, no-one has used this method and measured the oil volume coming out.
You get a good idea by the level in the extraction vessel, you know what the sump capacity is, it's not hard to work it out. Phil
 

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You get a good idea by the level in the extraction vessel, you know what the sump capacity is, it's not hard to work it out. Phil
That's what I said! Again the problem no-one has reported to do this on a X260 with 2.0D
 

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Is the new sump plug you installed magnetic? Doesn't look like it has the extension like the original.
No, it's not. This is the plug JLR sold me. I would've reinserted the old one as it was obviously doing its job but as car is still under warranty I thought it best to use the new plug - just in case.

I thought they just pulled off and be swapped over onto the new one.
Obviously not Phil, more's the shame. Makes you wonder if the magnetic plug is just for new engines and not needed after 1st oil change - assuming they don't use top extraction method.
 

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That's what I said! Again the problem no-one has reported to do this on a X260 with 2.0D
I've measured three changes just out of curiosity. With the oil warm, my inexpensive manual extraction pump left 6 oz first time, 5 oz second, with 5 on the third. As I change oil and filter at 6k I am satisfied with that arrangement. I'll still bring the cover down every other change just to check what is happening under it.
 

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Oz of oil??? What's wrong with litres and millilitres? I've no idea what an oz of oil is.
 

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Pint? Other than beer in a big glass....
 

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I'm just messing! I know you guys measure stuff in oz, pints and quarts, which I think is funny. And measure stuff in inches still! Quite how you can be accurate when doing stuff and working out a gap of 1/32" and then adding gaps together to get to a different denominator is just crazy stuff.
 

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.....Quite how you can be accurate when doing stuff and working out a gap of 1/32" and then adding gaps together to get to a different denominator is just crazy stuff.....
1/32" is OK for woodworking but for metal that would be .031". We must be doing something right, it got us to the moon and back :) There is a true story though about a $125M Mars orbiter built by two companies that was lost because one company (JPL) used metric in their calculations and the other (Lockheed) used inches! Metric is s-l-o-w-l-y becoming standard in the USA. I like old English motorcycles (I'm a masochist) and they use inches/Whitworth so it's the Limeys' fault anyway:)
 
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Ah, but we started to change to the metric system in the late '60s! Weirdly, we still use miles for speed and road signs though. And milk and beer is still sold in pints.

I had several British bikes, they were horrible. A BSA A10, 650cc twin., Weirdly both pistons rose and fell at the same time, like a single. Boy, that engine vibrated. Couldn't keep your feet on the pegs at over 4k revs. An old Triumph, the oil would fall out the crankcase just as fast as you could fill it....
 
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